Feature #6972

Create a "Partners" page

Added by BitingBird about 3 years ago. Updated 12 days ago.

Status:ResolvedStart date:05/05/2017
Priority:NormalDue date:
Assignee:-% Done:

100%

Category:Fundraising
Target version:Tails_3.0
QA Check: Blueprint:
Feature Branch:feature/6972+sponsorspage Easy:No
Type of work:Website Affected tool:

Description

- Start with listing generic information that doesn't rely on our roadmap.
- Maybe include hints to our roadmap and priorities but then it has to be maintained.
- We didn't decided on whether listing past sponsors on that page.

Cool pages we could get inspiration from:

screenshot.jpg (188 KB) u, 04/25/2017 02:24 PM

partnerspage.png (258 KB) u, 05/05/2017 02:31 PM


Subtasks

Feature #12515: Wording: Sponsor, Donor, Partner, Funder, Patron?Resolvedu

Bug #12521: Link to partners pageResolvedu


Related issues

Related to Tails - Feature #7734: Add tails-fundraising@ as a contact info for sponsors on Donate Resolved 08/03/2014
Related to Tails - Feature #12076: Have a sponsor per release Confirmed 04/13/2017
Related to Tails - Feature #12514: Add benefits for partners to partners/become.mdwn In Progress 05/05/2017
Related to Tails - Feature #12516: Ask all individuals who have donated if they want to appear on our partners page by name Confirmed 05/05/2017
Related to Tails - Feature #12517: Have a systematic thank you process for individual substantial donations Confirmed 05/05/2017
Related to Tails - Feature #12518: Add a toggle for previous partners In Progress 05/05/2017
Blocks Tails - Bug #12646: Make the Partners pages translatable In Progress 06/06/2017

History

#1 Updated by intrigeri about 3 years ago

I agree the "donate" page should at least give a lead for potential sponsors, and I assume this change would be easy and non-controversial. OTOH, I'm not sure that we need a full-blown dedicated page, and it might be more controversial.

Care to:

  1. create a new ticket for the first, easy change
  2. start the discussion on tails-dev for the 2nd, more involved change

?

Keeping in New state for the time being.

#2 Updated by sajolida about 3 years ago

  • Subject changed from Create a "Partners" or "Sponsors" page to Create a "Sponsors" page
  • Status changed from New to Confirmed
  • Type of work changed from Documentation to Discuss

To explicit a bit the issue:

I'm fine with adding a sentence to the Donate page to tell potential sponsors to contact us on . This requires either a patch either a new ticket.

I could agree on having a page only for sponsors that would explain a bit our plans for the midterm future, our roadmap, stuff we want to get money for, etc. but yes, this requires more discussion on tails-dev.

#3 Updated by sajolida almost 3 years ago

  • Related to Feature #7734: Add tails-fundraising@ as a contact info for sponsors on Donate added

#4 Updated by sajolida almost 3 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)
  • Assignee set to Dr_Whax

#5 Updated by sajolida almost 3 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)

#6 Updated by sajolida almost 3 years ago

  • Type of work changed from Discuss to Website

#7 Updated by BitingBird about 2 years ago

  • QA Check set to Info Needed

DrWhax, do you still plan to work on this, or can I steal it from you?

#8 Updated by Dr_Whax about 2 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Dr_Whax to BitingBird

please steal this from me! :)

#9 Updated by BitingBird about 2 years ago

  • QA Check deleted (Info Needed)

#10 Updated by BitingBird almost 2 years ago

  • Target version set to Tails_1.6

#11 Updated by BitingBird over 1 year ago

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.6 to Tails_1.7

#12 Updated by BitingBird over 1 year ago

  • Target version changed from Tails_1.7 to 246

#13 Updated by sajolida over 1 year ago

  • Target version changed from 246 to Tails_2.0

#14 Updated by BitingBird over 1 year ago

  • Target version deleted (Tails_2.0)

No date. If somebody wants to steal it, be welcome :)

#15 Updated by sajolida 6 months ago

  • Type of work changed from Website to Discuss

I want to do something like the FSF does https://www.fsf.org/patrons.
With a list of sponsors by year and the amount of money they donated.
The list would rotate every year and sponsors would only appear if they
donated during the current year.

This page would have a visible link from the homepage but no sponsor
would be explicitly mentioned on the homepage.

In the first years, the minimum amount of money required to appear on
the list could be quite small (best effort) and ideally grow as the page
gets more crowded.

The next step is to have a discussion about this. After that we could
more actively search for sponsors.

We already have a proposal from a sponsor to be in there, asking how
much is the minimal amount.

#16 Updated by spriver 6 months ago

sajolida wrote:

I want to do something like the FSF does https://www.fsf.org/patrons.
With a list of sponsors by year and the amount of money they donated.
The list would rotate every year and sponsors would only appear if they
donated during the current year.

I like this one (and the idea itself). FSF has one and events like the DebConf and GUADEC have something similar.

This page would have a visible link from the homepage but no sponsor
would be explicitly mentioned on the homepage.

I think this is important since this topic is not non-controversial and could lead to statements or assumptions that the project could be influenced by (major) sponsors. An idea for this place could be a fourth row in the bottom section of the homepage next to "Debian" "Free Software" and "Tor".

In the first years, the minimum amount of money required to appear on
the list could be quite small (best effort) and ideally grow as the page
gets more crowded.

The next step is to have a discussion about this. After that we could
more actively search for sponsors.

if we decide to do this we should also discuss whether we want to have some graduation (similar to FSF et al. somthing like "Gold", "Silver", etc) depending of the amount of money that was given to us.

#17 Updated by intrigeri 5 months ago

#18 Updated by emmapeel 5 months ago

  • Assignee deleted (BitingBird)
  • QA Check set to Dev Needed
  • Type of work changed from Discuss to Website

We discussed this on the January contributors meeting, and we decided that:

  • is a good idea
  • somebody should write a text to possible donors that want to appear on this page
  • Many other questions arise:
    • Should past sponsors be listed?
    • How should we communicate to interested sponsors (have a public policy)?
    • We renovate the page each year, like the press page?

#19 Updated by intrigeri 5 months ago

  • Type of work changed from Website to Discuss

Given the amount of questions left open, I'm adding this to the agenda for next meeting.

#20 Updated by intrigeri 4 months ago

  • QA Check deleted (Dev Needed)

#21 Updated by segfault 4 months ago

  • Assignee set to intrigeri

We talked about this during the contributors meeting. We agreed on listing sponsors by year, and adding the ones for 2016. We postponed the discussion about 2015 and before, and the "when do we clean the 2016 section" topic too. There were no volunteers for this, thus the assignment falls to the fundraising team.

#22 Updated by segfault 4 months ago

  • Type of work changed from Discuss to Code

#23 Updated by segfault 4 months ago

  • Type of work changed from Code to Website

#24 Updated by intrigeri 4 months ago

  • Target version set to Tails_3.1

#25 Updated by intrigeri 3 months ago

  • Assignee changed from intrigeri to u

u will be taking the lead on this :) u, feel free to adjust the Target version as you wish.

And BTW: https://www.debian.org/partners/2017/partners.en.html might be a useful source of inspiration.

#26 Updated by u 3 months ago

  • Target version changed from Tails_3.1 to Tails_3.0

I'll try to do that earlier.

#27 Updated by u 2 months ago

segfault wrote:

We talked about this during the contributors meeting. We agreed on listing sponsors by year, and adding the ones for 2016. We postponed the discussion about 2015 and before, and the "when do we clean the 2016 section" topic too. There were no volunteers for this, thus the assignment falls to the fundraising team.

I'm very surprised that this question has been rediscussed in March, too. In January we decided that

  • We will create such a page.
  • Sponsors will not be listed on the homepage.
  • A link to the sponsors page will appear on the homepage.
  • Should this link also exist from other pages?
  • We agreed that we will create something similar as FSF or Torproject i.e. we will have current sponsors listed on the page and link to past years. These pages should not be cleaned as suggested by the march meeting but continue to exist.

We had discussed who shall be on such a page and what the minimal donation would be. We decided that we did not want to disclose this information publicly by giving a number, but that we'll decide that internally.

I'm very surprised about the notes of the January meeting which seem absolutely incomplete on this topic. Let's take care next time to be more precise?

#28 Updated by intrigeri 2 months ago

I'm very surprised that this question has been rediscussed in March, too.

We didn't *re*discuss anything AFAICT, at least that wasn't our intention. We only discussed what was left as questions in the "Many other questions arise" section of the January meeting notes, as said on #6972#note-19.

In January we decided that

[... a bunch of things I can find in the meeting notes ...]

  • A link to the sponsors page will appear on the homepage.
  • We agreed that we will create something similar as FSF or Torproject i.e. we will have current sponsors listed on the page and link to past years. These pages should not be cleaned as suggested by the march meeting but continue to exist.

I'm glad to read this, interesting :)

But FWIW these ones doesn't appear in the meeting notes nor on this very ticket. Instead it's written "Should past sponsors be listed?" there, and "We renovate the page each year, like the press page?" on this very ticket. So I'm confused: it seems that something has been decided, not reported about anywhere I can find, and instead reported as a question left open.

Whatever, let's just find out what the conflicts are between the January and March decisions, and discuss these specific points again, no?

#29 Updated by intrigeri 2 months ago

u wrote:

I'm very surprised about the notes of the January meeting which seem absolutely incomplete on this topic.

Ouch, I had missed this sentence, which explains most of my previous comment. Sorry!

#30 Updated by u 2 months ago

intrigeri wrote:

u wrote:

I'm very surprised about the notes of the January meeting which seem absolutely incomplete on this topic.

Ouch, I had missed this sentence, which explains most of my previous comment. Sorry!

As said over XMPP, I had sent some details about what was decided to tails@ on January 10th. This should also have been in the public meeting notes, but it was apparently forgotten.

#31 Updated by sajolida 2 months ago

  • Description updated (diff)

#32 Updated by u about 2 months ago

  • Status changed from Confirmed to In Progress

#33 Updated by u about 2 months ago

  • Feature Branch set to 451f:tails/feature/6972+sponsorspage

#34 Updated by u about 2 months ago

Here is a screenshot of the page I created.

#35 Updated by u about 2 months ago

  • Assignee changed from u to sajolida
  • QA Check set to Ready for QA

In the past, we've been thinking about this page as only listing private sponsors. But I took some inspiration from the Torprojects's page which lists all sponsors alike. I think this is a good idea, because, why would we not list the organizations we receive funding from? That would be strange IMO.
So here is a first draft for the sponsors page.

On top, the current sponsors, images are 85 pixels high and in colour.
On the bottom, past sponsors, images are 55 pixels high and in CSS-grayscale.

Please review:
- the contents of this page: are there any sponsors I forgot?
- the layout of the page: what do you think about the design?
- the text of the page: is there anything you'd like to see improved?

Tentatively assigning to sajolida, and sending an email to tails-fundraising@ and tails@ for collective feedback.

Cheers!

#36 Updated by u about 2 months ago

Oh, and what's still missing here is the link to that page. I'm currently unsure where to link from.
It does not seem appropriate to add this link to the bottom of our pages because it would be the only link.
However, there should be a link from the homepage.

#37 Updated by u about 2 months ago

  • Assignee changed from sajolida to u
  • QA Check deleted (Ready for QA)

I've pushed some text modification. There are two sponsors I forgot apparently and I'll wait for some more feedback before asking for review.

#38 Updated by u about 2 months ago

  • Subject changed from Create a "Sponsors" page to Create a "Partners" page
  • Assignee changed from u to sajolida
  • QA Check set to Ready for QA

I've now applied a lot of the proposals I've received during the past days and I think we're nearly there. What's missing:

  • some amounts
  • the ack of the individuals that would like to be listed
  • your review :)

I've also modified the wording to "Partners" instead of "Sponsors". But I think it's pretty clear now.
Also, for each donor we have a title specifying the exact amount of the donation, besides the amount range on the left.

#39 Updated by u about 2 months ago

Here is a new screenshot of the current version.

#40 Updated by sajolida about 1 month ago

  • Assignee changed from sajolida to u
  • QA Check changed from Ready for QA to Dev Needed
  • Feature Branch changed from 451f:tails/feature/6972+sponsorspage to tails/feature/6972+sponsorspage

I sent a last round of comments on Sunday.

#41 Updated by u 22 days ago

  • Assignee changed from u to sajolida
  • QA Check changed from Dev Needed to Ready for QA

Thanks a lot.

I've implemented most of your comments, replied to the email and would like to have a very last round of review. And then we can publish I think!

#42 Updated by sajolida 20 days ago

  • Assignee changed from sajolida to u
  • QA Check changed from Ready for QA to Dev Needed

Reviewed again. There's only one tiny issue left!

#43 Updated by intrigeri 20 days ago

  • Feature Branch changed from tails/feature/6972+sponsorspage to feature/6972+sponsorspage

#44 Updated by intrigeri 20 days ago

I love it! Amazing work, congrats :) I only have a few nitpicking comments but would be happy to see this published as-is:

  • Instead of "Because of their substantial support" I would write "Thanks to their substantial support".
  • Tor have been paying ("in-kind") for the hosting of one of our servers since 2012. Sorry this is still not made explicit in our accounting :/
  • OTF is listed in the $50k-$99k category while they gave more.
  • As someone else already said elsewhere, I think this page shall be translatable. This requires coordination with , so feel free to publish as-is and give me a ticket make it translatable (assuming the way the content is done is translatable already, of course).

Finally, we might have a Redmine semantics issue here: subtasks are supposed to be things that need to be done before we can close this ticket. But here it seems to me that many of the subtasks are rather future improvements, that don't block this ticket. So I suggest you unparent every non-blocker, and mark them all as "Blocked by: #6972". From my remote PoV it seems that there are only 3 blockers that should remain subtasks: #12521, #12522, and #12442; but take this assesment with a grain of salt :)

#45 Updated by u 16 days ago

  • Related to Bug #12646: Make the Partners pages translatable added

#46 Updated by u 16 days ago

  • Related to Feature #12514: Add benefits for partners to partners/become.mdwn added

#47 Updated by u 16 days ago

  • Related to Feature #12516: Ask all individuals who have donated if they want to appear on our partners page by name added

#48 Updated by u 16 days ago

  • Related to Feature #12517: Have a systematic thank you process for individual substantial donations added

#49 Updated by u 16 days ago

#51 Updated by u 16 days ago

  • Assignee changed from u to sajolida
  • QA Check changed from Dev Needed to Ready for QA

Hi!

  • I've modified the relations of the tickets indeed.
  • I also created a ticket to make this page translatable.
  • I'm willing to rethink the way we translate "in-kind" as of today later on.
  • Fixed the range for OTF
  • Added Tor paying for server rent since 2012 to the page.
  • Modified the wording as proposed in note 44.

Please review again and hopefully publish this page now.

#52 Updated by intrigeri 15 days ago

  • Related to deleted (Bug #12646: Make the Partners pages translatable)

#53 Updated by intrigeri 15 days ago

  • Blocks Bug #12646: Make the Partners pages translatable added

#54 Updated by sajolida 12 days ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
  • Assignee deleted (sajolida)
  • QA Check deleted (Ready for QA)

Merging!

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